Installing xenon on a scooter - without altering the generator

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There are many types of lamps, of which xenon lamps have the best qualities, giving a directional and clear beam of light.

And if with cars everything is more or less the same, then the question of whether xenon is worth installing on a motorcycle in 2022 should be considered in more detail in order to understand the features of such lighting.

Installing xenon on a 50cc scooter (using the example of the Daelim S-Five scooter)

So, my goal was to install xenon on my 50cc scooter.
Fifty dollars, with a non-standard headlight lamp socket (ba20d) and a characteristic power system: the headlight runs directly from the generator, and the battery is charged from a separate small winding. 1. Generator The first thing that needs to be modified before moving on to a new regulator is to modify the generator itself. To do this, using a special puller, remove the generator bell, and behind it the windings themselves:

We go to the radio market, having previously collected a certain amount of banknotes.

List of necessary elements for a new shunt regulator: - Diode bridges KBPC5010 50A 1000V. I used 2 of them, just in case. - triacs VTA 26-600 (2 pcs) - two diodes. I took fast BYW 29-200 7.5A 200B - zener diode 13V/14V/15V - 1.3 Watt. The right one is selected experimentally. — resistors 30 Ohm 1W – 2 pcs. 200 Ohm 1W – 1 pc. - capacitor 25V 47000uF 1 piece - radiator - thermal paste and all sorts of other little things

I polished the surfaces of the diode bridges and the radiator for better heat transfer:

There are 4 wires on the terminal block that connected to the old regulator: red, white, green, yellow. 3. Refinement of wiring Dimensions, dashboard lighting, starting enrichment, carburetor heating (if equipped) - everything that was previously powered directly from the generator now needs to be switched to power from the battery, as additional loads.

Lights, dimensions, instrument lighting: we bite off the yellow wire going from the generator to the light switch/switch. Well insulated. Instead, we supply +12V from the ignition switch to the switch, which appears when the key is turned to the ON position (don’t worry about the load on the lock - the instrument lighting, side lights, etc. are a minor load, and the xenon will still be powered directly from battery From the lock (from the old terminals going to the lamp) only the relay for xenon will be controlled.

We connect the starting enrichment and carburetor heating via a button, similar to +12V, which appears when the ignition is turned on. Or in any other way, depending on how you want to implement heating control.

And check that there should be no load left between the generator and the new regulator on the yellow and white wires (change). 4. Bi-xenon itself In my case, I used a Venture bi-xenon lamp with a color temperature of 6000K (actual 5000K, when tested on a bench) and an H4 base, a ProLumen M1P35 ignition unit. The choice of lamp is due to the fact that the lamps from the Chinese manufacturer Venture produce clear, well-focused high beams. Bi-xenon lamps from other manufacturers often have problems with this. Although a lot still depends on the optics. But I emphasize that this only applies to bi-xenon lamps and is due to the specifics and nuances in their design:

— White, yellow – this is the alternating output from the generator. We connect these 2 wires to the input of our regulator circuit.

— Red, green – “+” and “-”, respectively, going to the battery and the entire power system. We connect the output wires from the new voltage regulator to them.

ProLumen blocks are small-sized, thin, and do not create problems with placement in a limited space under the plastic of a scooter. Production - Korea. The best solution for installation on motorcycles in terms of price/quality/size.

The Venture bi-xenon lamps also come with a relay (unfortunately, not small*), wiring with fuses:

* — For comparison, with ProLumen bi-xenon lamps, the relay is separate for each lamp and more compact, and not double as in the case of the Venture lamp.

In order to strengthen the lamp in the reflector, it was first necessary to expand the hole for the lamp in the reflector, literally by 1 mm:

But there will not be a single solution for all scooters. You need to improvise and come up with the most reliable way to mount the lamp relative to the reflector.

The ignition and relay unit was secured on top of the new regulator (on the other side of the metal extension from the frame) using strong double-sided tape and zip ties:

I immediately advise you to tighten the terminal blocks for the fuses because... With vibrations from the engine, which are typical for scooters, the light may twitch if the contact is not clear.

Connection: We connect the terminal blocks that were previously connected to the lamp to a special plug coming from the relay:

Separate classes of lamps

Separate classes of lamps include daytime running lights. As for Europe, they have been used here for a long time, but in the CIS countries they appeared on sale relatively recently. Today they are spelled out in all documents.

Why do you need this type of headlights? They are necessary in order to maximize the visibility of a car or motorcycle during daylight hours. Quite often, such material is confused with so-called dimensions, but this should not be done.

Many car manufacturing companies have long adopted such headlights and supply their models only with them. As for motorcycle manufacturers, they have only just begun to use them more widely. And this is quite strange, because we all know how bikers like to install a lot of headlights, right down to the handlebars of the motorcycle. All this is done to attract attention to your product. It is worth remembering that such headlights must be taken care of and turned off in time.

Xenon on a scooter - detailed installation instructions, advantages and disadvantages

Immediately after the creation of xenon, this type of lighting gained incredible popularity due to its exceptional brightness characteristics and low energy consumption. Any self-respecting automaker currently equips its cars with various modifications of xenon lamps in order to keep up with the times and not lose its position in the market. Everyone knows that at night it is impossible to get the same view of the road as during the day. Hence, a lot of accidents happen at night. This point is especially important for scooter owners, since standard lighting on a scooter (usually a regular 35w bulb or two bulbs of lower power) cannot provide even half of the required indicator. Installing xenon on a scooter will help solve absolutely all problems with lighting, but not everyone can afford it, both financially and technically. Before we move on to the practice of installing xenon on a scooter, let's determine the main advantages and disadvantages of xenon on a scooter, and also find out whether it is necessary to install xenon on your scooter, or whether you need it at all.

Advantages of xenon on a scooter:

1) A xenon lamp installed on a scooter produces a beam of light more than twice as bright as a conventional light bulb. On some scooter models, the difference compared to the original light bulb is colossal.

2) The service life of xenon lamps is significantly longer than its conventional counterparts (incandescent lamps). On average, this difference is about 10 times. That is, xenon will last 10 times longer, and this is a decent indicator. This is due to the fact that a xenon lamp does not have an incandescent filament, which burns out. 3) Passive safety. 4) Xenon lamps heat up less than usual and do not harm the optics.

Disadvantages of xenon on a scooter.

1) To install xenon on a scooter, you will need a special ignition unit, which will need to be shoved somewhere. 2) To install xenon on a scooter, you will need to redo the electrical equipment (more on this below), otherwise the efficiency of xenon will not be the same. 3) And one of the main disadvantages is the high cost. Indeed, to convert a scooter to xenon (along with the kit, of course), you will need to allocate about $100, and most likely, use the services of an electrician who knows a lot about installing xenon on a scooter.

Important information

Most motorcyclists, as well as motorists, prefer xenon headlights in their vehicles, as they provide better visibility of the road and emerging obstacles.

Before choosing xenon headlights, you should figure out whether they can be installed on a motorcycle and how to do it correctly.

If a traffic police inspector discovers that xenon headlights are present on a vehicle, but they were not structurally provided for, and the driver does not have documents on conversion, then he can not only arrest the car, but also deprive the driver of his license for up to a year.

This also applies if the headlights are certified, the bulbs in them are installed legally, but the adjustment is made incorrectly or is incorrect and the light blinds oncoming and ahead drivers. In this case, there is also a violation punishable by law.

Initial data

If a motorcycle headlight is designed for a halogen bulb, then under no circumstances should a xenon bulb be installed in it, as it will scatter the light instead of directing it to the space in front of the vehicle using a lens system.

Thus, the light simply spreads forward in a cloud, not providing a proper view, but looking nice without delivering results, and some lamps without a battery additionally strain the main power, so the motorcycle may perform worse.

It should be noted that certificates for headlights and light bulbs will need to be provided in any case, so when purchasing these devices it should be noted in advance that official documentation is required that will confirm the origin of the technical devices and their suitability for use.

Separate classes of lamps

In general, for motorcycles and other vehicles, in accordance with the recommendations of the traffic police, there are several types of light bulbs that are suitable for specific headlights and can only be used with them, but only such lighting devices are found in vehicles.

What regulations governs

It states that if a vehicle is equipped with red headlights or reflectors of the same color, and the main lighting equipment is made of devices incompatible with the car, or is adjusted incorrectly, then this is considered a violation, which is subject to punishment in accordance with the administrative code and even threatens with deprivation of rights, although in In some cases, it can be reclassified to another paragraph of the same article for payment of a fine.

Specific clarifications regarding the recognition of xenon as illegal are contained in the clarification of the traffic police, which states that if xenon lamps are not provided for a car, then they cannot be installed there, unless the headlights are legally modified with all the approvals, after which they will become quite suitable for installation of xenon lamps and will not violate the rules, as well as dazzle drivers, this is checked using special equipment directly by independent experts.

Features of using xenon

The principle of operation of xenon lamps is that under the influence of an electric current that passes through an inert gas, a glow occurs. It should be taken into account that the light beam that appears in the lamp is superior in its characteristics to other lighting sources.

Xenon is used for low and high beam. However, high beams can blind drivers of oncoming vehicles, which is at least unethical. Besides, it is quite dangerous !

In order to get an answer to the question of how to install xenon on a motorcycle, you should familiarize yourself with the types and parameters of lamps. Xenon lamps have three production series: H, D, HB. H series lamps have a light temperature from 3000 to 8000 K. Depending on the light temperature, lamps have various applications. They are installed in low beam, high beam, and fog lights. The D series is used primarily for low beam. HB series lamps are used quite rarely because they have a high light temperature.

The installation of xenon in headlights for halogen lamps is prohibited by law due to the fact that such lamps blind oncoming drivers. The use of xenon is only possible if these are either factory headlights designed specifically for this purpose, or modified ones that meet the requirements.

Installing xenon in headlights with special reflectors and lenses will not be visually very different from halogen headlights, but the quality of lighting will be higher. One of the conditions for using motoxenon is that the headlights must always be clean, since if there is dirt, the light refraction mechanism changes and the lamp will dazzle.

Allowed or not

Before you begin choosing and installing xenon headlights, you need to understand the issue of the possibility of installing this type of lighting on a motorcycle.

In accordance with the clarifications of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which were adopted on February 20, 2010, the following types of headlights are currently allowed on motorcycles and other types of vehicles:

Thus, the installation of xenon or bi-xenon lamps on a motorcycle is only permitted if a certain type of headlight is used.

All other situations, for example, installing a xenon lamp in a headlight intended for a halogen one, are considered a violation of the established rules and are punishable in accordance with Article 12.5 of the Code of Administrative Offenses by deprivation of the right to drive vehicles for a period of 6–12 months with the confiscation of devices that do not meet the requirements.

If for some reason (darkness, poor visibility, etc.) the headlight cannot be seized at the scene where the offense was discovered, then traffic police officers have the right to completely ban the use of a motorcycle in violation of its design features.

The issue of deprivation of rights will be considered in court.

If the design of the motorcycle does not provide for the possibility of replacing the lamp with a xenon one, then it is possible to completely replace the lighting devices on the vehicle.

To do this, it is necessary to carry out the procedure of re-equipping the motorcycle and adding xenon headlights to it.

The process of legalizing xenon is not particularly difficult. However, to legalize lamps of a different type, it is necessary to spend approximately 3–4 weeks of time and about 5,000–8,000 rubles (depending on the region of residence of the motorcycle owner).

The process of legalization itself is carried out according to the following scheme:

• the motorcycle is sent for a preliminary examination, at which the issue of the possibility of installing xenon on this particular vehicle is decided;
• with the result of the examination, you must contact the traffic police and obtain permission to install xenon;
• Next, equipment is selected in accordance with the recommendations of the traffic police and the priorities of the motorcycle owner;
• The equipment can be installed independently or at a service center. After installation of the equipment, a declaration of compliance with established standards is issued;
• A technical inspection is carried out at the traffic police, on the basis of which the changed data is entered into the PTS and the registration certificate.

Advantages and disadvantages of installing xenon

Advantages of using xenon:

• The lamps have an emission spectrum that is as close as possible to daylight, which affects the comfort of sensations.
• The service life is significantly longer than other types of lighting. A xenon lamp is guaranteed to work for 2000 hours, while for a halogen lamp this figure is 1000 hours.
• Xenon lamps have a beneficial effect on the driver's vision; they do not lead to fatigue from prolonged driving at night.

• High cost of purchasing and installing the kit.
• The need for a powerful energy source.
• Need an ignition unit.
• The heating temperature should not exceed 4800 K.
• Certain difficulties during installation.

General information

The driver can install xenon on a 50cc scooter independently or at a service center. The main task of xenon headlights is to illuminate the road at night. After all, the presence of light helps prevent accidents on the road.

Some motorcycle manufacturers install xenon lamps during production. For scooters, you can only use regular 35-watt lamps.

There are many difficulties during installation. High-quality, branded lamps are not cheap, and installing cheap ones is a violation of safety rules.

You can use xenon from China or Korea, but you should make sure that the quality is maintained at a high level.

Necessary concepts

Terms that the owner of a moped or scooter should know:

It is better to entrust the installation of xenon, in the absence of skills, to professionals.

Basic parameters of the ignition unit

Using the ignition unit, you can use xenon on a 150 cc scooter. Most often, ignition units with the following technical parameters are used:

Protection is provided against voltages above 5V, as well as against sudden voltage surges or open circuits. This is one of the main advantages of xenon lamps.

The legislative framework

Regulations that must be followed when installing xenon on a scooter:

1. Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 1090 “On traffic rules”.
2. UNECE Rules No. 99 and GOST standards R 41.99 - 99 “Uniform provisions concerning the official approval of gas-discharge light sources ... elements of motor vehicles.”

How to install xenon on a scooter and motorcycle

A xenon kit for a motorcycle consists of one lamp and an ignition unit. There are no differences between xenon for cars and motorcycles. In all respects, these are identical lighting devices. The process of installing xenon is quite complex, since it comes down to more than just replacing incandescent lamps. An ignition unit must be installed. The quality of the lighting and its service life depend on how well the installation is done.

The difficulty of installing xenon on a bike is that it requires a certain amount of space, which is often not available on a motorcycle. To solve this problem, ultra-thin ignition units that do not take up much space. When choosing the color temperature of motoxenon, you should not exceed 5000 K. This is the most optimal option for various weather conditions. Higher temperatures have proven to be ineffective in difficult weather conditions. And since riding a motorcycle becomes more difficult in rain or fog, inadequate lighting can cause an accident.

Xenon headlights

Xenon for a motorcycle and a car has one feature that is common to both options - an arc that glows and is located in the bulb.
It is filled with a special gas called xenon, which is where the name of the headlight being described comes from. It is precisely such a device that provides light that is closest in its characteristics to daylight. By the way, such devices were invented before World War II. It is worth noting that they began to be widely used on cars and motorcycles in the early 90s of the last century. Another feature of xenon is its service life - it is longer, unlike analogues of this lamp.

Regulator

Next, let's look at the regulator; many people confuse it with a switch; the switch relates to the ignition and has nothing to do with the rest of the electrical system. It is also called a voltage relay or a relay-regulator; this is also not correct; relay-regulators are used in conjunction with generators with an excitation winding; scooters do not have them. In scooters, a modern regulator does not contain any relays and consists of a low-power rectifier-stabilizer and a simple electronic circuit, usually based on a thyristor or triac, which regulates the voltage on the control winding. Fully adjustment looks like this: at startup, the voltage on the rectifiers reaches the required 13.8 volts, as soon as this happens, the stabilization circuit on the main winding is started; part of the voltage from the main winding is supplied to the regulating winding by pulses through a thyristor or triac; as a result, the action of induction and antiphases reduces the EMF in the coils and reduces voltage in the main winding. This scheme has many advantages: simplicity, compactness, low cost, low heat generation, and greater reliability. But there are also disadvantages: low efficiency, variable output voltage, voltage fluctuates greatly from 6 to 17 volts

All this is not important for the incandescent lamp in the headlight, for which the main winding is actually made, so the circuit can be considered ideal simply for a scooter, without tuning. To charge the battery, turn signals and instruments, a constant voltage is used produced by a low-power rectifier-stabilizer in the regulator, the same one that provides the reference voltage for controlling thyristors

Usually this current is no more than 2-3 amperes.

People who have no idea about the principle of operation of the regulator suggest connecting all additional equipment to the battery; the result is disastrous; first, everything works; the battery gives up its energy instead of being charged; then, as the battery discharges, the load on the regulator increases, and when the maximum is reached, the regulator overheats and burns out. . Modern regulators cannot be repaired, and buying a new one costs a lot of money. But what’s more, many manage to burn more than one regulator in this way until it reaches them. The only good thing about this situation is that many modern regulators have protection against overloads, both thermal and power, so that usually everything ends only with a discharged battery.

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#8 Administrator

Ventel (10/13/2009, 10:49 am) wrote:

strong master. A xenon lamp is cooler and less energy-intensive (except for starting, you need to be insured) than a standard one, and even more so a halogen one.

The second question is that the light on the dio is often very controversially adjusted - it must be adjusted so as not to blind oncoming drivers.

#9 Ventel

Gruz (MOTOUA) (10/13/2009, 12:42) wrote:

strong master. A xenon lamp is cooler and less energy-intensive (except for starting, you need to be insured) than a standard one, and even more so a halogen one.

The second question is that the light on the dio is often very controversially adjusted - it must be adjusted so as not to blind oncoming drivers.

#10 LINCORN

The following question: I have a Venta 150 cc, on the front there are 2 double-spiral lamps of 25 watts each with an adapter for H4, I want to install bisenon. what is the current when starting these lamps? I will have a couple of them, it won’t happen that they simply won’t be able to start. and what power is the generator in my moped.

The question is probably not in this post))

Post edited by LINCORN: 22 April 2010 - 19:18

#11 Reiter

LINCORN (22.4.2010, 20:38) wrote:

The following question: I have a Venta 150 cc, on the front there are 2 double-spiral lamps of 25 watts each with an adapter for H4, I want to install bisenon. what is the current when starting these lamps? I will have a couple of them, it won’t happen that they simply won’t be able to start. and what power is the generator in my moped.

The question is probably not in this post))

Recently, Kent got 2 xenon lens units installed on his Kiwi 125. It turns out there is no distant one. Initially, there was 2 * 35 watts of light shining on the near side and switching to the far side (2nd spiral), so now one lens unit is only on fire, it turns out that the second one does not have enough power to start. The battery has 6 amperes, that is, you need at least 7, but it’s not a fact that it will start normally.