Scooter generator. Operating principle and diagnostics

The scooter's ignition system is needed to ignite the gasoline entering the cylinders. It is very important that the moment of fire is chosen accurately, otherwise the scooter will not move. Ignition is provided by a powerful electrical discharge issued by the spark plug. This requires a voltage of at least 15,000 volts, which can only be obtained thanks to the ignition coil, which converts the voltage supplied by the battery. Older models were equipped with contact cam ignition; modern ones are equipped with contactless ignition, which proves to be better and more practical.

Scooter electronic ignition device

The modern ignition system of a 4t scooter is designed as follows: the switch and coil, which are its main elements, supply high voltage to the spark plug, which generates an electrical discharge that can ignite the fuel. The coil generates high voltage due to electromagnetic induction. The switch is needed to distribute its interruption voltage at the right time. Inside there is an electronic circuit, a thyristor and three outputs for wires. At the right moment, the switch supplies voltage or turns it off.

The principle of operation of the scooter ignition system is as follows: the battery supplies voltage to the coil, which is often connected to a switch in one unit, the switch supplies voltage to the spark plug, and decides when to interrupt it. The mixture in the cylinders lights up at the right time. The correct operation of the engine and whether it will start at all depends on how the ignition is configured and set.

Switch

In many scooter models, the commutator is combined with a coil, so if one of the devices fails, the entire unit has to be replaced. Such spare parts are inexpensive.

Externally, the switch looks like a plastic box. Inside there is a microcircuit, a variety of electronics that cannot be repaired. In addition, there is a thyristor. The task of this element is to interrupt the electrical impulse at the right moment; for this purpose it has three outputs. When current enters one of them, the thyristor turns into a conductor, and the current moves from the input contact to the output. When a certain voltage is reached and the current drops, the pulse is interrupted, after which the Hall sensor returns the thyristor to its original position so that the signal arrives again at the third output. The process is repeated every time the voltage is applied again.

Photo report: How to check a scooter's generator?

Just like that, without minimal knowledge of electronics, at least at the school curriculum level (like mine) and a simple multimeter tester, you won’t be able to test the generator, don’t even dream about it. Before taking on such work, you should at least be able to use a tester and understand that current can be alternating or constant, know what an electrical impulse is and what resistance is. Do you know all this? Have you held a tester in your hands? If yes, then let's not hesitate.

Checking the functionality of the generator should begin with measuring the voltage that the generator itself must generate and transmit through wires to consumers. We look at where the wiring harness from the generator comes out of the engine - we move along it until we reach the connector with which the generator is connected to the on-board network of the scooter.

On the vast majority of scooters, the alternator connector looks something like the picture. In the common connector, there is one plug and two wires that are connected to the scooter’s on-board network through round terminals.

The plug combines the connectors of the two main windings of the generator: The working winding (yellow wire), which ensures the operation of the headlights, turn signals, lights and other consumers. And the control winding (white wire), the control winding provides voltage control in the main winding of the generator. That is, when the voltage in the operating winding of the generator increases above the specified limits, the relay-voltage regulator supplies current to the control winding of the generator, due to which the voltage in the operating winding of the generator drops to the specified limit. When the voltage drops, the reverse process occurs.

In this generator, the main windings are wound with thick copper wire on six coils.

The third winding of the generator, which is usually called high-voltage or inductive, and the magnetic induction sensor of the generator are connected to the scooter’s on-board network through round terminals.

High-voltage winding of the generator - ensures the generation of high alternating voltage (the voltage in this winding can reach 160 V or more), which directly enters the switch where it is rectified, then accumulated in the capacitor and at a certain moment in the form of a pulse is supplied to the ignition coil.

In this generator, the high-voltage winding is wound with a thin copper wire on two coils. The high-voltage winding coils are carefully insulated on the outside.

There are generators in which the high-voltage winding is wound on only one coil.

A small clarification: ignition systems in which a DC CDI type switch is installed, the high-voltage winding does not participate in the formation of a spark charge on the spark plug, so there is no point in checking it. Scooter manufacturers install a generator with a high-voltage winding, but do not use it (meaning ignition systems with a DC CDI switch). It's just wound on the generator and that's it. I will say more: due to the fact that the winding is not loaded with anything during operation of the generator, over time it simply burns out.

An example of a generator, on two coils of which a high-voltage winding that is not involved in operation is wound. I checked this winding - the tester showed an open circuit, which confirms the above.

The resistance of the generator's inducing winding is always greater than that of the other windings. The wire coming from the inducing winding of the generator is almost always red and black.

The magnetic induction sensor, when a special ledge on the generator rotor passes past it, generates an alternating pulse that opens a theristor through which the switch capacitor is discharged to the ignition coil.

Sensor in person

Ledge on the generator rotor

The wire coming from the magnetic induction sensor is almost always blue-white.

A small educational program: Traders and collective farm tusks, magnetic induction sensor of the generator, CDI ignition systems - called the Hall sensor. My dears... Maybe that's enough already?.. Where does this illiteracy come from?.. The magnetic induction sensor of the generator, the CDI ignition system, and it is this system that is discussed in this article - it has nothing to do with the hall sensor! And don’t listen to these hucksters and “gurus” who say the opposite...

The actual check itself

We switch the tester to the alternating current (ACV) measurement mode to a range of 200 V and no less. We remember that the voltage of the inducing winding can reach 160 V or more, so the measurement range of the voltage of the inducing winding must be at least 200 V.

We disconnect the plug and round terminals of the main harness - connect one probe of the tester to ground, connect the other to the terminal (black-red wire) of the inducing winding of the generator. Turn on the ignition and turn the engine with the starter. A fully operational pickup winding should produce approximately the following values.

The pulse generated by the sensor is very weak, therefore, we switch the tester to the alternating voltage (ACV) measurement mode in the 2 V range. Measuring the pulse from the sensor in a higher range may not give a result, since the tester may simply not catch it. For this purpose, use only a tester with a range in AC voltage measurement mode of no more than 2 V.

We do everything exactly the same as in the first example. The pulse from the sensor should produce approximately the following values.

By analogy with the first two examples, we measure the voltage in the working and control windings. We put the tester in the alternating voltage (ACV) measurement mode in the 200 V range and take measurements.

Well, what did you measure?.. Do all windings generate current? Or not all?.. If any winding does not produce current, then whether you like it or not, you will have to remove the generator and check it in more detail. But if the windings generate a current of approximately the same magnitude as in the pictures, then this means that your generator is in perfect order. Something like this…

In-Depth Check

We lay the generator so that the terminals of the generator windings are accessible to you. We determine the ends of the terminals of all generator windings. Finding the ends of the windings is very simple: look at the color of the wire that is soldered to the terminal block and determine what kind of winding it is.

I have marked the ends of the windings here with arrows. I selected the arrows in color in accordance with the color of the wires soldered to the terminal block. The green arrow marks the terminal block on which the ends of all windings are soldered - this is the ground terminal block.

We switch the tester to the dialing mode, take any wire from the common harness, connect any tester probe to this wire, and with the second probe touch the terminal block to which this wire is soldered. The tester should beep and show zero resistance.

If the tester is “silent” and shows numbers instead of zeros, then this means that there is a wire break somewhere or poor contact between the end terminal and the wire. Inspect the wire carefully for a break and, if necessary, replace it with a new one. We check the remaining wires, including the sensor wire, using exactly the same principle.

After checking the wires, we proceed to checking the generator windings for open circuits and interturn short circuits. We switch the tester to the continuity mode, touch any tester probe to the generator housing, and touch the end of the wire of any winding or terminal block with the second probe.

The high-voltage winding in the continuity mode should show approximately this resistance value. If the high-voltage winding does not show resistance or shows little resistance, then this means that somewhere there is an internal break or an interturn short circuit. You understand that such a malfunction cannot be “treated.”

When checking the remaining windings, the tester should emit a sound signal; the resistance of the working windings is very small, so most likely you will only see zeros on the tester display. If the tester does not emit a signal, it means there is an internal break somewhere. Such a malfunction cannot be “treated.”

We put the tester in dialing mode, touch the sensor body with any probe, touch the sensor wire or the terminal on the body to which the wire is soldered with the second probe. The resistance of the sensor winding should be approximately within these limits. If there is little or no resistance, replace the sensor with a new one.

Ignition circuit components

The ignition circuit is an important part of the scooter's electrical system, without which it simply will not work without proper assembly. The circuit includes a coil, a spark plug, a switch, a generator, and a CDI ignition module. The latter looks like a small block, on one side it is plastic, on the other it is filled with compound. It is for this reason that when a unit fails, it is completely replaced without trying to disassemble it.

The CDI module has outputs for connecting five conductors. It is usually located quite close to the battery, can be mounted on the scooter frame or have a special cell. Most often, the CDI unit is located closer to the bottom of the vehicle, so it is not easy to reach. Without this element the system will not work.

Relay regulator

The relay regulator is colloquially called a stabilizer. This element is needed in order to rectify the voltage and stabilize it to the required level, which is suitable for the operation of the scooter’s electrical appliances. In Chinese and many Japanese models you need to look for it in the front of the vehicle, usually under the fairing. During operation, the radiator of the part becomes very hot, so it is placed where it can receive air cooling.

During operation, the generator produces alternating current, which is supplied first to the relay-regulator, and then moves on. The relay converts alternating voltage to direct voltage, in addition, it stabilizes the voltage to 13.5-14.8 Volts. If the voltage is less, the battery will not be able to charge; if it is more, there is a high risk of failure of the electrical system.

The regulator usually has 4 wires. They differ in color; in a standard diagram, the green wire is always ground. Red is under constant voltage. White supplies the regulator relay with the voltage supplied by the generator: this is alternating current. The yellow wire also goes from the generator to the relay regulator. The relay converts the voltage, turning it into a pulsating one. After this, the voltage goes to lighting fixtures, which are the most powerful consumers. Some models have an illuminated dashboard, additional lighting, running lights or other types of suspension. All this is powered by the same wire.

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