Mechanical or electronic
Initially, these motorcycles had mechanical ignition. Unlike BSZ, this option has low reliability. The reason is in the mechanical elements of the structure; they wear out over a certain mileage, which leads to regular failures. And you have to adjust the ignition on the Ural motorcycle much more often
The electronic ignition system on a motorcycle does not have such problems. There are practically no interacting elements here. Therefore, the service life is significantly longer. Also, thanks to improved spark formation, there are fewer problems with engine operation. The owner is also relieved of the need to regularly clean the contacts. All this leads to the massive spread of BSZ on this model.
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Features of the electronic system
If you prefer to service your motorcycle with your own hands, then this ignition for the Urals will be an ideal option for you. It is much easier to maintain. There is no need to adjust the gaps on the contacts, which significantly reduces the time of service work. Also, the ignition timing does not change during operation.
Also, a huge advantage of this ignition option for a Ural motorcycle is that the spark plugs last longer. Thanks to more efficient spark formation, the load on them is significantly less.
Immediately after installing the new unit, you will notice an increase in engine efficiency. Fuel consumption is reduced and it becomes more responsive on the road. Also important is the absence of problems at low temperatures and wet weather.
This type of motorcycle assembly consists of the following elements:
- Hall sensors;
- Modulator of magnetic field into electric discharge;
- Ignition coil;
- Switch for distribution of spark charges;
- High-voltage wires, terminals, fasteners.
Actually, any BSZ consists of these elements, you can also read the article Izh Planet 5, ignition adjustment, there is also information on this topic.
Installation of BSZ from VAZ 2108
You can’t find a factory electronic one here either, and it’s 2-3 times cheaper than Yekaterinburg (if I bought it, I’d only buy it). The most expensive thing to install is the coil: “3012.3705” was purchased to order. characteristics here: https://oka113.chat.ru/electric/elektric.htm#top, it cost me 46 hryvnia. The switch started at eight, then it burned out (with the engine running I disconnected the battery) then I bought “0529.3734” for 30 UAH (and all the costs, how much will the repair cost if the factory one burns out?) specifications of the switch: www.vtnauto.com/ 0529.htm - written by Akum. you can turn it off! (but it’s better not to try). Sensor - 10 UAH. In a compartment -86 UAH (16 bucks versus 55) - in my opinion, not expensive for electronics, which are equipped with parts from any manufacturer.
See the connection here: https://www.roker.kiev.ua/techinfo/techinfo/638/dop/bsz.htm or in Moto (N9/2002/p. 103)
What gave: Accuracy in the appearance of a spark in left-right. cylinders, the engine runs smoothly, the timing gears do not knock. It starts right away (if it doesn’t start, nothing will help). If the problem is not in the ignition, it will start without trouble. It works VERY stably even at speeds at which the contact ignition begins to fail, because of this the max. revolutions, and from here power. The spark strikes, it’s scary to try it with your hands, it runs without problems on spark plugs with broken side electrodes (according to the 1mm standard). The engine is no longer picky about spark plugs - it runs smoothly on all the spark plugs lying around in the garage that were once rejected. Carburetors have become easier and more accurate to regulate (they have become very sensitive and the range of adjustments has expanded. Previously, if you turned it a little too little, it won’t go (overflows), if you turned it too much, it chokes, but you can’t find the golden mean. Now, if you didn’t turn it enough, it’s a little weaker in power, but it goes; a little I twisted it - it eats more, but it tears like a beast. Well, if something is wrong, I immediately go into the carbs (the ignition is bad). If you leave the ignition on when the engine is not running, the switch itself will turn off the power after 2 seconds - the coil will not burn out and It doesn't sit down. It's easy to adjust, just set the TDC, and twist the housing until a voltage appears on the middle wire of the sensor (green) - measure with a multimeter.
It is possible to install an octane corrector (probably very convenient), if I have the money I will definitely take it. If you want, look here: https://www2.zr.ru 4th issue for 2000, article “advance with delay”.
The original coil will do (even easier - you don’t need to make a new mount), but there will be no effect of a RADIC SPARK - starting with half a turn, 1mm in spark plugs, you will have problems with carburetors, etc. All that will remain is stability, smooth running, convenience without frequent adjustments and high speeds.
In the conference this is written by those who have not tried it in practice, or they have extra money for a factory BSZ. Regarding the springs and eccentrics, frets with a Hall sensor have them, but in the Urals you will only need to adjust them correctly. In my opinion, the mass of the curtain is no more than the cam, except that the energy will not be the same due to the larger diameter and the fact that the contact is constantly sliding along the cam. If you doubt the accuracy of the calibration of the springs, you can adjust it yourself: https://lada-faq.lebedev.ru “Checking and adjusting the UOZ centrifugal regulator on a car” I personally didn’t do anything, and nothing works. Although we will have to take this more seriously. Of course, the angles will not be optimal, but I don’t think that the dynamics and all that will increase so much that you will want to spend money on something else or be smarter further, unless you have nothing else to do, and then for greater effect you will want a vacuum cleaner. I can’t feel the difference in the electronic calculation of angles (no possibilities), but I couldn’t notice the difference in the transition from contact to electronic.
If I understood electronics, I would try to assemble an electronic regulator. There is an idea to use an octane corrector with a constant delay that does not take into account the revolutions. Then, in theory, the graph of the change in angle versus revolutions would be straight, approximately the same as on the graph of a mechanical regulator, although it is unlikely that it will be optimal. But at least it will hit exactly on schedule, not like a mechanical one.
The only thing that cannot be done, which could have been done before, is to disconnect the battery and remove the wire from the spark plug without shorting it (with a gap) to ground.
Of course, the factory system is better (in terms of advance angles), but in order to simplify the design it was necessary. Price quality. I myself doubted until the last moment whether it would work or not, but when I put it in, it’s beautiful!
Contactless ignition systems
Not so long ago you could only find a homemade device. The reason is the lack of proper supply in stores. Craftsmen in garages remade the contactless unit from other motorcycle models and assembled it from individual parts. This is a rather complex activity that requires skills. Now you can purchase a ready-made kit without any problems.
There are many advantages to using ready-made products. At a minimum, they have been tested in the Urals, which guarantees reliable operation. It is also much easier to install a ready-made unit than to make it yourself. The following sets can be found on the market:
- "SoveK". Under this brand you can find regular contactless ignition, as well as a more advanced microprocessor ignition. The assembly can be supplied with or without a bobbin. Easy to install and practically does not respond to voltage changes;
- "Saruman." Quite an interesting and reliable assembly. There are two sensor options available here; there can be a conventional Hall sensor, or a modern optical one. There is protection against voltage surges, especially high current. To simplify setting the ignition, there is a light indication.
Using ready-made kits is currently the best option.
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Selection of candles
The contactless system has certain requirements for candles. If they are faulty or do not fit a specific motor, then you will not get any positive effect from using this system.
Be sure to check the condition of the spark plugs. They should not have soot. It is optimal if the electrode has a sand color. If necessary, replace the spark plugs; when selecting, pay attention to the heat rating. When the spark plugs are in order, the electronic ignition can be installed.
Installation
Now you can install a new ignition system for the Ural motorcycle. Before starting work, dismantle the old BSZ. Installation is carried out in the following order:
- We install a new coil, here you will need a connection diagram, otherwise problems will arise further;
- We install the ignition module; it should be secured so that it is directed towards the coil.
- The engine rotor is installed in the position at which the ignition is adjusted.
Now you have a contactless ignition system installed, all you have to do is configure it to achieve optimal performance. Please note that setup here is only required once. In fact, you already know how to install the BSZ.
Leave it to mechanics or install electronics
Perhaps not all older motorcycle models are running. The Ural motorcycle sits and rusts in my grandfather’s barn because it won’t start.
The wheels are spinning, the engine is not jammed. Maybe the spark goes into the ground, as they say. In short, you need to look at the spark generation system. But even a working motorcycle, with a contact ignition system, causes unexpected and unpleasant problems for its owner:
- won't start when you really need it;
- with new oil rings in the engine, the spark plugs become covered with soot;
- there is no required engine power when driving with maximum load;
- the maximum speed is not reached;
- The battery is slightly discharged and the engine does not start.
Tuning a Ural motorcycle with your own hands - this article will help you decide in which direction to modernize your Ural.
The contact ignition system creates a lot of problems, especially when the moving parts in it have already worn out, backlash has appeared, and the geometry of the elements has changed.
Settings
Now we adjust the ignition timing. We install the motor in accordance with the marks, connect all the wires. Next you need to adjust the position of the sensors. Next, we attach all the elements and check for sparking. If everything is fine, then you should drive 10-20 kilometers and check the set angle again.
If necessary, adjustments are made, but if everything is done correctly, this will not be necessary. Knowing how to do contactless ignition on your motorcycle, you will not wonder how much this work costs in a workshop.
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