I have been interested in cars and everything connected with them for several years now. As I grew professionally, I learned to understand all the intricacies of the engine. But today I would like to talk about motorcycles, or rather, low-power motorcycles - that is, scooters. I also have sufficient experience working with dozens of rebuilt moped engines and hundreds of repaired cars.
This article should help you and will help answer many questions, including teaching you how to select the “right” lubricant for your scooter’s engine and giving answers to other questions that interest you. The text also contains useful advice from experienced craftsmen with extensive experience.
General characteristics
4-stroke air-cooled engines are characterized by high temperatures in the cylinder-piston group. Oil does not mix with fuel and does not enter the combustion chamber, therefore, the engine mixture for this type of drive must have the following properties:
You should not use motor oils designed for engines equipped with water cooling in 4-stroke air-cooled engines; these two types of oils contain different compositions of additives, the first are designed to heat the cylinder bore to a temperature of +160 0 C, and for the second this parameter is - +220 0 C.
Watch a video about the classification of motor fluids:
Standards
It is difficult for an ordinary buyer to understand the labeling of lubricants, so often unscrupulous sellers give out fluids for 2-stroke engines instead of 4-stroke ones. By purchasing such products, you reduce the service life of the drive, so before going to the auto store, familiarize yourself with the generally accepted standards indicating that the engine oil is suitable for four-stroke air-cooled drives:
When choosing a base oil base for engines with an air-cooled system, consider:
Top 3. Eni/Agip i-Ride Scooter
Rating (2021): 4.77
71 reviews taken into account from resources: Yandex.Market, Ozone, Otzovik
The most popular oil Lubricant from a famous brand, which has surpassed all competitors in terms of the number of reviews. The product is often found in test reviews and is recommended by professional mechanics.
- Characteristics
Price per liter: 470 rub.
- Country: Italy
- Type: semi-synthetic
- Viscosity: 10W-40
If you've ever had your scooter repaired by a mechanic, you've probably heard of this brand. It is this that is most often recommended to be poured into 4-stroke engines, and it does not matter whether you have 150 cubic meters or just 50. In addition, the name can be found in the technical documentation of many scooters and motorcycles. At least those brands that do not produce their own lubricants. The lubricant is especially recommended for owners of sports equipment subjected to heavy loads. Accordingly, an ordinary city scooter will feel just great with it. As experts from the Drive portal say, loading Agip i-Ride means loving your bike and wishing it many years to come.
Advantages and disadvantages
- Recommended for heavy loads
- Often mentioned by professional mechanics
- Strictly controlled quality
- Weak protection against counterfeiting
- Do not pour on top of another lubricant
See also:
- 20 best motor oils
Recommendations
The canister with a quality product indicates that the lubricant is suitable for 4-stroke air-cooled drives. Properly selected fluids must meet the requirements of the vehicle dealer in order to ensure normal engine operation. Preference should be given to products from well-known brands, for which the sellers have a quality certificate. Incorrectly selected engine oil will lead to increased carbon formation, increased fuel consumption, and rapid engine breakdown.
When choosing a specific brand of oil, please note that motor oils for motorcycles differ in the quantitative composition of antifriction additives. This is due to the operating mode of the power units; snowmobiles, for example, are designed for extreme load conditions, while scooters are used under much better operating conditions. Lubricants for these types of equipment will have different compositions and additives.
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High-quality oil for new and old 4T scooters
Every happy scooter owner will sooner or later need to change their engine oil. Which oil for a 4T scooter to choose? Often this question makes modern lovers of two-wheeled vehicles think seriously.
To extend its service life, you must carefully care for your scooter.
General recommendations for selection
Practice shows that for each type of engine you need to select a specific type of oil. It is important not to confuse oil for 4-stroke engines with oil for 2-stroke engines. In most cases, recommendations for choosing oil are included in the maintenance and operation manual of the scooter. Modern industry produces a huge number of types of oils for 4-stroke engines. A quality product costs a lot of money. But such oil will provide good lubrication and cooling of the main components of the power unit. Scooter engine oil can be:
Mineral lubricants are distinguished by their low cost. They do not include special additives, are susceptible to oxidation, and can form deposits on the internal surfaces of the engine. Mineral oil wears out quickly and is not suitable for heavy loads and high-temperature operating conditions of an internal combustion engine. Semi-synthetics are the golden mean, which will provide good lubrication and protection of unit parts. Synthetics are expensive. Synthetic lubricants include a number of additives, do not oxidize, do not form soot or deposits, and perfectly protect your engine from wear and overheating.
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Motor oils come in mineral, synthetic and semi-synthetic bases.
There is no need to skimp on lubrication. The fluid level must always correspond to the operating level mark set by the manufacturer. If you do not add or change the lubricant, the piston group quickly becomes unusable or simply jams. This can lead to costly repairs. The lubricant is replaced after traveling 2-3 thousand kilometers.
To change the lubricant you will need:
After replacement, you should periodically check the level and add oil if necessary.
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Oil should be added to a warm engine.
What kind of oil should I put in my scooter? The range of motor oils is represented by the following brands:
The choice is large. What to choose? It's up to you to decide.
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Top 4. LUKOIL Moto 4T 10W-40
Rating (2021): 4.72
48 reviews from resources taken into account: Yandex.Market, Ozone
Best price Cheapest motor oil specifically for scooters and motorcycles. One liter of lubricant costs about 15% less than its nearest competitor and is half the price of top brands.
- Characteristics
Price per liter: 270 rub.
- Country Russia
- Type: semi-synthetic
- Viscosity: 10W-40
Recently, the Russian brand Lukoil has launched the production of special oils for motorcycles, scooters and snowmobiles. The set of basic additives in it has changed, the consistency and viscosity have changed. In addition, it is recommended to pour it into tools equipped with 4-stroke engines. That is, the oil is universal. Whether this is good or bad is difficult to judge. One thing is certain, a top brand would never agree to such a combination of appointments. However, buyers speak well of the product and praise it for its characteristics and large resource. In addition, oil can be poured on top of another. You do not have to completely drain the previous product and clean the crankcase. An excellent option if topping up is needed.
Advantages and disadvantages
- Multi-purpose lubricant
- Can be used as a top-up
- Affordable price tag
- Lots of fakes
Scooter oil
Of all the possible types of transport on our roads, today we can safely highlight
scooter as the winner in the nominations “most economical”, “most maneuverable”, “most easily accessible”... and there will be no end to these “most” nominations.
Choose scooter oil
What kind of gasoline should I use?
This is the first problem that absolutely all scooter owners face. According to the passport, you need to fill it with an octane number higher than 90. In our area you can most often find 92 or 95. In principle, 92 will be enough (it contains the least amount of additives that “catch up” the octane number to the required one). The exception will be those scooters in which any gasoline below 95 is contraindicated, so it’s worth looking into your specific model once. Incorrectly selected gasoline can cause a number of problems: from contamination of the carburetor and fuel level sensor, and even to failure of the entire fuel system.
API classification
API is a quality classification system for automobile oils. The oil designation in this system consists of Latin letters.
The first part can be either S (Service) - oil for gasoline engines, C (Commercial) - oil for diesel engines, EC (Energy Conserving) - energy-saving oils.
The next letter is the designation of the oil generation. The designation is in alphabetical order, i.e. The farther the letter is from the beginning of the Latin alphabet, the higher the generation of oil (better performance qualities).
API categories SA, SB, SC, SD, SE, SF, SG are currently recognized as invalid, category SH is considered conditionally valid. Thus, oil of the SE and SF cannot be found on sale now. What kind of oil should you buy then? The answer is to buy any one that is further down the alphabet (SJ, SL, SM, SN), it will in any case be no worse than the recommended one.
How to choose scooter oil?
Everyone who takes the path of a motorbike enthusiast is faced with the problem of choosing and changing oil for a scooter or motorcycle. While some people change it immediately after purchase, others travel several thousand kilometers and only then change the oil. But there are also those who do not change it at all; this, of course, does not last long. To choose which oil is suitable for your scooter, you need to know the type of engine of your scooter. There are two-stroke (2t) and four-stroke (4t) scooters. Accordingly, there is oil for 2t and 4t scooters. For each of them there are three types of oil: mineral, synthetic and semi-synthetic.
What kind of oil to pour into a scooter
Let's decide on the type of oil that suits your scooter. To do this, determine the type of engine: two-stroke or four-stroke. After this, you can start making your selection.
Scooter with two-stroke engine
If the scooter engine is two-stroke, then the oil for it must be 2 tons. This type of scooter eats oil and is added in small doses to gasoline (in modern 2T scooters, oil is no longer diluted with gasoline thanks to a separate engine lubrication system). Therefore, the oil must be such that it mixes well with gasoline and does not settle at the bottom and clog the carburetor. 2t oil copes well with this.
And even if you have an old twenty-year-old scooter, do not neglect quality oil. It doesn’t matter whether the scooter is new or old, everyone is required to ride it.
Scooter with four stroke engine
For scooters with a regular gearbox, 4t oil is suitable, but if your scooter has a CVT gearbox, then you need gear oil. In the case of a 4t scooter, the choice of oil comes down to the same principle as for a 2t. That is, it all depends on the riding style, the technical condition of the moped and also its age. If we talk about four-stroke mopeds, then it is recommended to fill them with 10w-40 oil. In principle, a moped can run on regular car oil, but use such oil at your own peril and risk. The oil must protect all rubbing parts well, and there are a large number of them in the engine. And the scooter clutch especially needs high-quality oil, since it literally floats in oil.
If we are talking about what kind of oil to pour into cubic capacity motorcycles, then two-stroke synthetic is better. This way the cylinder-piston group will remain clean and well preserved. This oil is the most resistant to various temperatures. Also, synthetic scooter oil produces less soot, which settles in the muffler and clogs it.
Why change the oil
I met a person who did not change the oil for 3 seasons. His ATV was being repaired and there was little left of the oil, everything was covered in soot. And the engine was working in this one, it’s good that it was still working at all. But it significantly reduced its service life, and the repairs cost a pretty penny.
As mentioned, a good synthetic oil prevents the formation of carbon deposits and is resistant to temperatures. Carbon deposits interfere with engine operation and reduce its service life, complicate the life of compression rings and cause overheating. And given that the amount of carbon deposits is constantly increasing, plus constant overheating, repairs will not take long. And expensive motorcycles require expensive repairs. Therefore, it is not recommended to skimp on oil.
Synthetic, semi-synthetic or mineral water?
It is generally accepted that synthetic oils are of the highest quality and almost extend the life of the engine. On the other hand, as I wrote above, now any oil that has been certified according to the API standard is suitable for use in the Alpha moped engine.
I chose the golden mean for myself: I pour semi-synthetics from imported manufacturers into my moped, because... the price of a liter of semi-synthetic oil is now not much different from the price of mineral oil.
But only now you can rarely find semi-synthetic 15W-40 on store shelves. Mostly mineral oils are sold with this designation. Therefore, I fill the engine with 10W-40 oil as the closest to the manufacturer’s recommendations.
Scooter oil - 2t, 4t, types of oils
One of the essential attributes of any vehicle is oil, because it allows your engine to operate properly and smoothly. A scooter also needs quality oil and so we will look at the process of choosing this product.
As you probably already know, according to the type of engine, a scooter is divided into 2-stroke and 4-stroke, so for this purpose different types of oil have been created that meet the requirements of the engine. You can buy scooter oil for your engine in any store; the choice of oils is so wide that you will only have to decide on the price. But it is also worth knowing that there are also two types of oils - synthetic and mineral. But we will start with choosing oil according to engine type.
Oil for 4t engine
When choosing oil, first of all pay attention to the price. If you want your scooter to run smoothly and the engine not to overheat, buy expensive oil from a branded manufacturer. Expensive oil has already proven itself in the market, and therefore most scooter riders use it. To select the right oil, read the owner's manual for your scooter model, which will indicate the scooter's viscosity rating. But if you do not have such a manual, we will recommend standard indicators for 4t scooters.
As a standard, such scooters should be equipped with motor oil with a viscosity of 15W40 and 10W40. For them, there is a separate temperature regime and level of wear of your engine. In case of significant wear on your engine, use oil with a viscosity of SAE 20W-50.
Oil for 2t engine
Engines with two-stroke systems have a slightly different approach to choosing oil, and here the quality of the product plays an important role rather than viscosity. As you should know, all Japanese small-capacity scooters with a 2T engine have a separate oil tank, from which the oil goes to the oil pump, and then to the fuel mixture. That is why such motors require a special lubrication system. Since such a motor goes through a full circle in 2 strokes, at this time the resulting oil should not only burn together with the fuel, but also create a small but high-quality film. High-quality oil should not leave residue, mixing and dissolving in full.
Types of motor oil
Also, motor oil for scooters is made into three types - synthetic, semi-synthetic and mineral. Let us immediately note that synthetic oil is the highest quality and most productive; it burns faster without leaving a negative residue. This type will always be a leader, because the manufacturer tries to follow innovations and modernize the composition of the oil. Mineral motor oils are considered the cheapest and lowest quality, so we strongly do not recommend using them. The use of a mineral product has a negative effect on the engine - it causes a lot of carbon deposits, the scooter loses power or has trouble starting. The worst result is a breakdown of the piston group, which overheats and jams due to lack of oil.
In conclusion, here are some of the highest quality and most popular types of motor oil for scooters (2t and 4t)
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Two-stroke engines
This is often oil for a motocross motorcycle (enduro, pit bike) or for the old Soviet Izh. Also, two strokes are often enough to quickly accelerate a 125cc scooter or motorbike. There are cheap synthetics and very high-quality synthetics that are worth filling, for example, for motocross or other intense wear. For example, 800 2T Factory Line Off Road Motul.
What quality indicators are required for such fuels and lubricants? First of all, this is resistance to soot formation, as well as the amount of smoke emitted during combustion, because the gasoline-oil mixture burns along with the fuel.
There is a division of oils into categories, here are the labels suitable for them:
- TA is a vehicle that can be operated with an A1 driver’s license, that is, a vehicle that has an engine capacity of up to 50 cm3.
- TV is already a more common category. It includes all powerful motorcycles up to 300cc.
- TS – all other motor vehicles up to 300cc.
- TD is a suitable fuel and lubricant for boats, but you shouldn’t put it in your bike.
But there is also a Japanese classification, according to which they distinguish:
- FA are motors with high forced power.
- FB – optimal for urban use.
- FS - poured only into mopeds and small scooters.
Why shouldn’t you pour 4-stroke engine oil into such engines? Because they usually contain a large amount of additives that burn poorly in the fuel tank, leaving carbon deposits. This pollutes your device a lot, but, of course, you will be able to travel 100-200 km.
scooter motor oil 4t
scooter motor oil 4t
Post by vladd » 02 Jun 2011, 16:49
Re: 4t scooter motor oil
Post by MOTORRADnik » 02 Jun 2011, 17:43
Re: 4t scooter motor oil
Post by vladd » 03 Jun 2011, 10:45
Re: 4t scooter motor oil
Post by MOTORRADnik » June 06, 2011, 12:30
The SAE class informs the consumer of the range of ambient temperatures in which the oil will ensure cranking of the engine with a starter, pumping oil through the engine lubrication system under pressure during a cold start in a mode that does not allow dry friction in the friction units, and reliable lubrication in the summer during long-term operation at maximum speed. and load mode. The classification divides motor oils into six winter classes (0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W and 25W) and five summer classes (20, 30, 40, 50 and 60). In these series, larger numbers correspond to higher viscosity. Oils that have the desired viscosity at operating temperatures and maintain acceptable “pumpability” at low temperatures are called all-season. When starting at low temperatures, thickened oil has difficulty circulating through the channels. Long seconds pass until it reaches vital organs with the required pressure: crankshaft bearings, timing shaft, and so on. 80% of engine wear occurs during this phase of starting the motorcycle. Thus, an ideal oil should have low viscosity at low temperatures. This viscosity is indicated by another SAE number: a number followed by the letter W (as in the English word "winter"). For example, SAE 15W gives acceptable pumpability at -25°C, SAE 10W gives the same, but at -30°C (measured at -40°C below the "W" number). Attention, however, 10W oil does not allow you to unscrew the throttle when starting at 0°C! It only requires a few seconds less time than 15W to reach the desired engine parts, or gives a little less wear and tear with each cold start. Thus, contrary to the needs of the engine, oils thin when heated and thicken when cooled. With the help of various formulas (mixtures) of oils, it is possible to moderate this natural tendency. All-season oils suitable for year-round use are designated by a double number, one of which indicates the winter class, the other the summer class, for example, SAE 5W-30 or 10W-40, 15W-40, 20W-50, etc. Based on the above, I can add that for our climatic zone and operating conditions, the ideal oil would be one that has a summer viscosity class of 40 or 50. Many equipment manufacturers have recently begun to recommend oils with a summer viscosity class of 30 as they are fighting to reduce toxicity and for efficiency (oils types 5W30, 10W30 are easy to drive and were specially developed to reduce exhaust toxicity and increase fuel efficiency).
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#2 IGOR (MOTOUA)
Predator (16.6.2007, 16:09) wrote: Predator (16.6.2007, 16:09) wrote:
topic moved to “Spare parts, consumables”
#3 Predator
IGOR (17.6.2007, 8:53) wrote:
the fact is that it’s not the cubic capacity of the engine that worries me, but the brand of oil. That is, I previously filled in 10W40 ZIC oil, but now I filled in 10W60 XADO. It’s just that many people say that this oil has a XADO additive and serves as engine protection from overheating and overloads. In addition, HALO has two++ + piston and engine protection + piston restoration
If you have any verified information about HADE, please write. It doesn't matter whether it's positive or negative. I will answer anyway. The only mistake I made was buying oil for high-speed scooters. I just didn’t come across 10W40 XADO when I bought it. .
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#7 Predator
vladuxa (4.7.2007, 23:50) wrote:
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You shouldn’t praise Hado so much without having sufficient experience in dealing with it (at least 2-3 years in various operating conditions of various equipment), and even more so, you shouldn’t break the rules by copying here advertising articles from the websites of Hado dealers.
Therefore, the in-place repair technology is automatically signing a death warrant for your engine. after hado and other rubbish, there can be no talk of any other oil.
but I don’t see any point in pouring revitalizant into the engines of scooters and motorcycles with resources of 50-100 thousand, its service life is much lower than that of ordinary metal surfaces (otherwise why don’t “stupid” equipment manufacturers use such cementation in factories? Especially those who have R&D very deep and serious).
experiments with oils often begin after you get into “fake” oil. The only way to protect yourself from this is by buying from reliable sellers.
In any case, 10w40 continues to be the optimal oil for most motorcycles. Find out the specific type of oil from the equipment seller; it is indicated in the service and user manuals (with possible adjustments for different ambient temperatures). For a silverwing it is 10w-40, but for a phaser it is 5w-30, etc. The engine manufacturer has already thought for itself and for you and has tested various types of oils.
My personal opinion about oils (from my own experience, in long-distance conditions, with a cruiser 140, maximum speed 160-180). all 10w-40 silver 600 and burgman 650:
