Review of the Honda NT 650 Deauville motorcycle
I have a 2002 Honda NT650V deauville. Moved from boxer. Basically I was looking for a little tourist. I really like the motik. The appearance is not flashy. Doesn't attract attention. It drives well, also steers and brakes. After 2001 there is a combined brake system. Again the cardan. Although for me it’s not mono-writing. Consumables are not expensive. There is rubber for it. 92 gasoline digests normally. I don’t even know what to write about him.
Hi all! My Deauville and my wife drove it for 4 seasons across half of Europe. good, cheap tourist. Fuel consumption is about 3.7-6 liters per 100, depending on the speed limit. The engine is reliable and high-torque, the dynamics are not particularly good, but the reliability is at the level. 5.5 sec -100 km/hour. In 30 thousand kilometers the speedometer drive cable has broken down. Thanks to its considerable weight, the motorcycle is very stable on the highway, the wind protection is at the level, after Doville I no longer want to ride other motorcycles without developed protection. 92 Benz sells well.
My firstborn. Our combined mileage is 4000 km. It handles well and is just great on the highway. Very responsive to counter-steering and at the same time stable in straight-line motion, potholes, etc. Doesn't tend to do wheelies or stoppies. Under very intense braking, the front wheel jumps on the asphalt, all behavior is quite predictable and controllable.
Maximum on the highway with touring glass is 170 km/h. 120-140 is his comfortable speed. Although the last time I went to Brest, it was 140-160 all the way and it didn’t bother me. Consumption 3.5 at 90, 5.3 at 120-130. A wonderful thing is the combined brakes. Tires Michelin Road Pilot, I haven’t driven the other one, this one has only advantages. By dynamics. This is not a sport. But 5.5 to hundreds - 99% of cars don’t accelerate like that :). The dynamics up to 120 are quite decent. At the same time, in the fields the second one pulls from 0. I drove with the second number and it’s not felt on the highway. His strong point is comfortable and economical movement to a given point. The footrests are cleverly made - for two positions of the feet, more sporty and tourist (such as city and highway), very convenient. Technically very reliable /nothing extra/.
The fit is comfortable, classic (for my height of 177 cm). The seat allows you to move back and forth. High clearance makes it possible to drive on sidewalks. Spacious trunks will come in handy when traveling and more. Safety bars covered with a plastic casing. Among the nice additions are foot protection shields from water, heated grips, an alarm system and a “cigarette lighter” in the side glove compartment.
At first I went and looked for cons. They were found in the form of a soft fork (treatment - oil change) and a small glass (touring ones are in tuning catalogs).
I enjoyed everything. 650 is quite enough for both the city and the highway. Not “sport” of course, but still. Due to the V-shaped engine, the width of the device is very small. I was stressing over the panniers. Wasted my nerves in vain. They are not wide, roomy and easy to use. The side ones open conveniently. There are straps inside to hold luggage. The combined brake system is worthy of respect; it has saved the day more than once. A 19 liter tank is enough for 250-300 kilometers. Wind protection at a high level. When it rains, your hands get a little wet. I'll put in regular plastic shields, they'll be enough.
I haven’t used the regular seats with music yet. But their presence indicates the seriousness of the engineers’ approach to the owner’s comfort. For the passenger there is a backrest on the central trunk and comfortable handles, the wife is always “for joy without traffic jams.”
During the season we managed to drive about 5 thousand miles. A little. But this is only for work and back and evening rides. It was not possible to get to the “long-distance” route. Summer trips to the countryside to the beach with my wife confirmed the correctness of my choice. They took a lot of things with them in their trunks, and even a melon for dessert was not superfluous.
Appearance
I won't write anything. There are tons of photos of Doville on the Internet. Therefore, I don’t see any point in telling you how beautiful he is.
Landing:
Here I “hit the top ten”: the distance from Chernigov to Solnechnogorsk in 12 hours and 2 stops. the numbers speak for themselves. Just in case, my height is 174 cm.
Control
No special skills are required when driving both on the highway and in the city.
People often ask, “What’s it like on it after ebbing?” I'll say this. As soon as I bought it (September 2010), it was a little unusual, even with such a difference in weight, but when I sat on it in the spring, I had the feeling that I had been driving it all my life. It’s certainly not a problem in traffic jams, but I don’t feel any hellish discomfort.
Power point
In my subjective opinion, the thrust-to-weight ratio is in complete order. If you want 60, you want 160 (max 180) and I don’t need more. Besides, flying 200 on our wonderful roads is a direct path to success IMHO. Good traction from the bottom, no “kicks”, everything is exactly like a locomotive. Consumption depends on the speed of movement, I pour 92. work at home - about 5 liters. for Valdai with ebriks - 3.5l. MKAD - Kievka 160-180 - 7 or more.
Maintenance and repair
There is nothing special. Everything is simple and clear. True, there are a few hemorrhoids with plastic, but everything is learned by comparison, try changing which thread of the cable, say on a BMW CL 1200, then you will find out what hemorrhoids with plastic are. There are no problems with consumables. The most serious failure is the fuel pump. According to the behests of the fathers, I stuck 1100 rubles from the stove for 20 minutes of work.
Cardan
I will say this, for 15 thousand kilometers I spent 15 minutes of time and 200 rubles on servicing it. How long does it take to service a chain? The procedure for removing the rear wheel, say, from the SB400 is not much different. I got it right in choosing the main gear.
+ Comfortable seating, good engine, low fuel consumption, and of course, feel free to sign me up as a cardan fan!
— the side panniers are not removable (they make it difficult to remove the rear wheel, but not fatal). there is no fuel gauge, everything would be fine, but when the gas runs out, the pump pushes air and quickly breaks down, at different speeds it is difficult to focus on mileage.
2003 Honda DeVille, 650cc, 12k miles.
from England thanks to Ilya for delivery and customs clearance and Sashka for preparation and repairs
I waited a long time for rubber bands in the carbs to replace the frayed ones, the fuel pump malfunctioned - they replaced it with a Kawasaki one. By the way, it was also dull at first, for the first 40-50 miles (I’m not yet used to converting them into kilometers) at full throttle the engine did not spin more than 5 thousand revolutions, the maximum speed was 120 km/h, respectively. But then, apparently, the pump expired, everything worked as it should
The motorcycle is not heavy, a little over two hundred kg, not wide at all, despite the integrated panniers, quite high in the saddle - I rest my toes on the ground. not like on the KTM, of course, but not with the whole foot.
Original trunks do not shine with volume, everyone knows this. But they ARE! And you don’t have to carry a backpack with you anymore, your back doesn’t ache, your shoulders don’t ache. The sales are unusual; I still can’t shake the feeling that I forgot something at home.
A high windshield, extensions on the fairing, mud flaps under the sliders: wind and dirt protection at a high level.
The seat is comfortable for both the pilot and the passenger, wide and comfortable. The landing is classic, although after KTM at first it seemed that the steering wheel was too low.
Drive - cardan :good: Tank - 20 liters. You drive about 160-170 miles to the reserve.
The black protrusions on the fairing are not just plastic sliders. Beneath them lie confidence-inspiring safety bars.
Power 57 hp The motorcycle confidently accelerates to 140 km/h, then it also accelerates, but not so intensely. There are videos on YouTube like “200 km/h on the speedometer of my Deville,” but in real life I’m not interested in that. With a passenger up to 100 km/h the decrease in dynamics is not very noticeable, then the difference becomes noticeable. Handling is nothing like my previous bikes. Still, the diagonal frame is weighty! The rear doesn't lead in corners and doesn't move on bumps. The front tire is 120 mm; it rides on cut asphalt as if it were freshly laid. The brakes also improve compared to my previous equipment; the two discs at the front do their job properly, which I already had the opportunity to verify: yesterday on the highway. The enthusiasts turned left at their red light, hospitably presenting the right door, a BMW with a big nose at the wheel. One thing that confuses me is that when braking, even at moderate intensity, you can feel a beating on the steering wheel. Apparently, we need to look for a new pair of brake discs and pads.
In short, I'm happy: dance3: After a whole year of inactivity, life is getting better!
All the best!
I became the owner of this miracle almost by accident. At first I wanted a transalp, but when I came across an ad, I decided on reflection. Why not? Same engine, integrated panniers, good wind protection, cardan! Get high! Are there perfect used motorcycles? Of course not. During the initial examination I missed a lot. It goes without saying that no one will let you dismantle the floor of a motorcycle somewhere in the middle of the street. And when I started climbing at home... In general, “What did you want? The dream is in showrooms” In general, everything is in good technical condition, does not knock or rattle. The critical thing I missed was the current rear timing cover gasket. The engine doesn't really eat oil. The cost is not great, but the price tag could be lowered... Naturally, why not take it for a ride before putting it in the garage?! I’ll be sitting on pins and needles all winter. On the country road, carefully maneuvering, I got used to it. Yes, after YBR bandura. You immediately feel 647 cubic meters. Of course, the battered right side, the right part of the front fairing, is upsetting. And in general, the condition of the paint and fasteners. The suspension is the same “road” and stiff on the country road as the Yubra. You sit comfortably, but you can really appreciate it at a distance. What are your plans now?
Much, and most importantly, to bring the motorcycle to excellent technical performance. Technical part: — Repair and overhaul of the fork (the right leg oil seal is leaking) — Adjustment, cleaning and synchronization of carburetors — Adjustment of valves and inspection of gaskets.
On the transalpavod forums they write that the problem is most likely not in the gasket, but in the seals of the clamping bolts. Over the years, they “squat”, which is why oil begins to leak from the timing cover - Straighten the radiator honeycomb - Change the oil - Replace the spark plugs - Replace the front pads - Replace the antifreeze - Change the oil in the driveshaft - Replace the oil/air/gasoline filter Electrical: - Return halogen light - Elimination of twists, electrical tapes, etc. — Clean up the electrical network
Plastic: The sore spot of any motorcycle with its abundance. I’m mastering the technology of welding ABS plastic and will bring everything back to human form during the winter. The most important thing is to restore the right and front fairing + factory fasteners. — Weld all cracks — Restore fasteners — Paint
I want: — Engine temperature gauge — Covers that increase the side panniers.
What was the main mistake I made? That's right, I bought it with almost my last money. =) On the other hand, winter is long. I set a goal to do everything with high quality, for a long time and for myself. I don't want to rush. And in general, the most expensive thing is consumables. What about painting? “John always kept his BMW in exemplary condition. It was really nice to look at, and mine always seems a little shabby. Here is a classic mind at work: inside it works like a clock, but on the surface it looks untidy.” Robert Pirsig ©. Over time, I stopped understanding why polishing equipment to a shine, wasting time and money on it. After all, this will not make her work better. It won't go faster. It won't become more reliable. What matters is what's inside. When I'm ready, maybe. But not now. The rest is trivial, you just need patience and your hands. What do I love to do? Nothing gives you more confidence than equipment that has been fully tested and serviced by you. Along the way, I will write down the stages and processes in the logbook. All the best!
PS Photos of the owner before last, for which many thanks to him. Both for photos and detailed information. I think that without his description of what happened to the equipment, how it was serviced, where it was driven, I simply would not have bought it. PSS The previous owner only drove it for 1.5 months.
Hellolife
The time has come to talk more fully about the operation of the Honda NT650V DEAUVILLE based on the results of the past 2 months from the date of purchase. It seems that the period is not long, but in these two months 7,000 kilometers were covered, of which 2,000 were in the city in dense city traffic, and 5,000,000 as a result of long-distance travel across Russia from St. Petersburg to the Southern Urals and back.
My first impressions, for me as a person of small height, about 170 and not having enough weight, were that the motorcycle was a bit heavy. At first it even seemed that I would not be able to put it on the center stand or lift it if I suddenly fell on its side. But I got used to the first one, and unfortunately the device failed twice. It turned out to be quite possible to raise it. In general, I can say that the motorcycle is quite suitable for driving even by a girl, you just have to be careful when rolling and braking and stopping, especially when turning.
I’ll start my review of the operating experience with the city, where the Honda NT650V Deauville, despite the fact that it is a tourist, feels very good. As standard, the rear panniers do not interfere when driving between rows, and the mirrors are located above the level of the rear-view mirrors of most sedans, but at the same time at the level of the mirrors of jeeps and Gazelle-type trucks, which you just need to pay attention to when driving. In general, the widest part of the Honda NT650V Deauville is the rider's knees.
Having experience driving vehicles of various classes, and comparing it with the Honda NT650V Deauville in city traffic, I can safely say that I have never met a more sane and responsive vehicle, and here’s why. Despite the small power of 56 horses, this device leaves the traffic light in 5.5 seconds to a hundred, which is faster than 99% of cars, while the acceleration is controlled and soft, but that’s not even the point. The most important thing for me was how it behaves at low speed, this is movement between the rows at low speed, and the convenience of starting from a stop in a traffic jam, controllability of gas supply at low speed when maneuvering in traffic (up to 20 km/h) - and so here the v-twin shows itself in all its glory with an optimally selected power take-off moment. In general, I must say that I did not feel any specific moment, like on sports motorcycles the engine opened after 7 thousand revolutions; rather, on the contrary, there is a feeling of a smooth and uniform reaction of the engine to any movement of the throttle handle. When dropped, the cardan and small volume gently brake the motorcycle without causing fear that the rear wheel may skid; when unscrewed, they accelerate confidently and smoothly. This allows you to fully control the situation and forgives many of the motorcyclist’s mistakes.
We must pay tribute to the engineers of the Honda NT650V Deauville for the weight distribution of the motorcycle; when moving at low speed, the device does not tend to fold or go to the side. You can move for a long time at a speed of 1-2 km/hour and still maintain your balance. At the same time, in terms of taxiing and maneuvering, everything is very good, the Honda NT650V Deauville is a little resistant to laying down, yet the long wheelbase and touring body kit with a uniform center of gravity make themselves felt. But if you get used to it, it won’t be a problem to reach the footrests. By the way, the suspension is adjustable at the rear, and you can select a mode in accordance with the quality of the road surface or driving style.
In general, it cannot be said that a motorcycle is an ideal option for the city, and if there is a need to use a motorcycle only for the city, that it is better to ride a smaller and lighter device, I myself would probably choose even an octushka (a device with a capacity of 125 cc. ) as a second motorcycle specifically for the city due to low consumption. Speaking of expense. The consumption of the Honda NT650V Deauville in the city is about 5-6 liters, depending on driving style. The comfort of the classic seat and the height of the saddle allow you to comfortably spend a long time on the move and control the flow of vehicles by seeing the entire situation on the road from above the roofs of cars.
In technical terms, there are no more negative aspects than when driving other devices with a water-cooled engine. No one has ever encountered overheating of this device in traffic jams, and indeed its homeland, as well as the greatest popularity of the Honda NT650V Deauville, is in the country where the production is located - in Spain. You yourself understand the climate there. There is nothing to say about the reliability of the VT series V-twin engine from Honda, and the operation of the gearbox has long been a model and standard in the motorcycle world. At this point I’ll probably put an end to the description of the device in urban conditions; if you have any questions, I’ll answer in the comments below. Write.
Well, the technical characteristics of the NT650V Deauville General data Year of manufacture: Class: Drive type: cardan shaft Drives: Consumption, l per 100 km: 8.3 Maximum speed, km/h: 185 Acceleration to 100 km/h, s: 5.5 Engine Number and location cylinders: V2 Number of strokes: 4 Engine capacity, cubic meters. cm: 647 Compression ratio: 9.2 Gas distribution system: camshaft in the cylinder head Valves per cylinder: 3 Cooling system: liquid cooling Cylinder diameter, piston stroke, mm: 79×66 Power, hp/rpm: 55.7/8000 Torque torque, Nm/rpm: 55/6000 Number of carburetors and diffuser diameter, mm: 2×36.5 Number of gears: 5 Chassis Front suspension: telescopic fork Rear suspension: pendulum, with central shock absorber Front brakes: disc Rear brakes: disc Dimensions and weight Length, mm: 2220 Width, mm: Height, mm: 810 Wheelbase, mm: 1475 Ground clearance, mm: 150 Front tire size: 120/70-17 Rear tire size: 150/70-17 Dry weight, kg : 223 Fuel tank volume, l: 19
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